Tuesday, July 2, 2013

10 Things Your Favorite Musician Won't Tell You



I recently stumbled across a 2010 article entitled 10 Things Your Flight Attendant Won't Tell You. Reading it, I couldn't help but draw certain parallels. Like those flight attendants described therein, musicians - and I'd imagine actors, media personalities, athletes, authors and others in the public eye as well - not wishing to appear rude or in any way diminish the experience of the customer (or fan in our case), occasionally hold back some of what we're really thinking.

Don't get me wrong - I and most musicians I know immensely enjoy meeting our fans. We're grateful for the interactions, whether up close or afar, via stage or social media. We're well aware of the fact that without our fans we'd be nothing, or more literally, artists performing to empty rooms (which, unless you're a militant purist, seriously takes the fun away). Many of us, myself included, have never lost touch with how it feels to be a fan.

So it is in this spirit of fan appreciation, respect and total understanding, not to mention a grain of salt - (humor is a virtue, folks) - that I offer the following list, triggered by the aforementioned article, in hopes of a better musician/fan experience for all:

1. Know how to work your camera.

Unless we're disheveled, in a huge hurry or it's otherwise not the right time, we're usually pleased that you'd like your picture taken with us and happy to oblige. But there's nothing more awkward than you and I posing in front of your camera while you or your friend struggles, squints and kvetches (to use an old Yiddish term for "complains") like my grandpa when he couldn't figure out how to work his VCR. This is especially true if we're in a crowd and other fans - patiently waiting their turn - are having to witness this bumbling and fumbling. And if I'm being rushed into a vehicle or venue, this could cost someone else the chance at a photo. These days, your camera resides in your phone, so it's with you at all times - take the time to learn how to work the thing.

2. Remove the cap from your pen.

I take back what I said above. There is one thing more awkward and demeaning than standing in a pose trying to hold a smile during failed attempts at figuring out how to work your camera, and that's being handed a pen with the cap on so tight, you might as well be asking me to open a new jar of pickles. Seriously, would it kill you to just uncap the thing? Otherwise, I look ridiculous wrestling with your pen in front of a crowd of fans who - rightfully so - will be hard pressed to not hold back chuckles (and who hopefully know better and have their pens uncapped and ready).

3. Don't bring your entire album collection to be signed.

At concerts and other appearances, we're usually more than happy to sign a disc or two, perhaps a couple more if there's time... but not ALL your albums! The same with magazines, posters and other items - if you bring so much that you could set up shop, open up your own store on the spot, it's too much. It's very cool that you collect all our stuff (seriously)- but how about just bringing a few items at a time? You have to consider our usually very tight schedule and the fact others may be waiting; isn't it better that a couple dozen people can each get a signature than you get one on every one or your albums in every format- record, CD and cassette? Again we're more than happy to provide an autograph for you but who said anything about underwriting an EBay auction?

4. If you're trying to catch a pick or other item at a concert, show some tact.

During shows, There are a few "throwing moments" where we might channel our inner softball pitcher, tossing items (guitar picks, drum sticks, setlists etc). At these intervals, pointing, waving, signaling and otherwise trying to get our attention is totally fine. But when right out of the gate, from the moment the lights go down, all you do is flail your arms, point at your fingers and constantly motion for us to throw you a pick - it's pretty lame. Even more so is the guy who does nothing during the entire show except point to a homemade sign ("PICK PLEASE!!") as though he's a driver attempting to locate his passenger at the airport. Here's a secret: achieving a pick is a bit like having "game" in the dating scene: if you appear desperate and clingy, it has an adverse affect. Be polite and cool about it, pay attention to the music and only gesture when its appropriate; that way you'll be the one we'll try throw the pick to.

5. Online etiquette is essential.

This one has a few components:

A. Don't flood our feeds. Translation: avoid constant barrages of replies to our public Tweets, FB messages, comments, etc. We value crowd engagement; we wish to receive responses from as many of you as possible (minus haters, of course). But posting too many comments in too many places too quickly is a turn off. Think of it his way: a few relevant, constructive comments once in a blue moon makes us want to hear from you more often. But flooding our social media feeds makes us wish to take literally the words of a great hard rock band (Iron Maiden) and run to the hills.

B. Reply accordingly, not overwhelmingly. If we Tweet back to you, don't reply with ten Tweets. If we answer your comment with one or two sentences, don't respond with several pages. And if we answer an email with a paragraph or two, don't send us a massive missive whose size rivals the unabridged version of Moby Dick (or its subject).

C. Our public posts are directed towards everyone. Don't reply to them as though they're written just for you (they're not). And don't take them personally (that includes this post).

6. Don't hand us things unsolicited. If your band is good, we'll hear about you eventually; meanwhile, there's nothing we can do to help, sorry (if someone we trust in the industry recommends your music, we'll probably check it out, but there isn't time to filter through the sea of demo CDs by newcomers). And if you're someone of the opposite sex, don't slip us your phone number with a sideways glance; should one of us be interested in you socially, we'll make that clear or send someone over to relay the message - otherwise, it's safe to assume we're not.

7. Don't stare at us as though we're not human. (News Flash: We Are).

A popular young fiction writer, Maureen Johnson, shares the following words: "'There's a fine line between good eye contact and the piercing stare of a psychopath." Johnson, whose Twitter account boasts that she's "on the wrong side of it," is using self-deprecating humor. You, on the other hand, do not want to be on the wrong side of that line. Appreciating our work is wonderful; obsessive worshiping is not. Just talk to us like we're people and try not to stare too hard.

8. Be courteous to us and fellow fans when we meet - don't interrupt and/or talk our ears off.

We realize it can be overwhelming to meet, especially in a charged atmosphere full of other fans trying to edge their way in. Whatever the situation - meet & greet, chance encounter, party - as soon as you've had your interaction, however brief (even if it is just "hello"), please allow us to move on to another person. Don't ramble incessantly, don't follow, don't hover and by all means, don't butt into the next conversation (you wouldn't like it if someone did that to you, right?). Those who practice respectful courtesy are the ones we tend to remember and hope to speak more to in the future.

9. There is nothing fun about interacting with someone who is 100% shitfaced drunk.

Are you listening Europe? Not that this doesn't occasionally happen in the US, but it seems that Europe (Scandinavia in particular), suffers from an epidemic of fans who go to shows, drink all day long and end up barely coherent - slurring, mumbling, repeating themselves, talking over others and when we meet, engaging in "conversations" like this:

Drunk fan: "You (hiccup) are the greatest!"

Artist: "Thank you. It's nice to meet.."

Drunk fan: (Louder) "NO. I mean it. YOU... are... the... greatest (hiccup)"

Artist "That's very kind. I appreciate..."

Drunk fan: (Yelling, causing heads to turn) "YOU don't UNDERSTAND!! (hiccup) I.. (hiccup) MEAN it!! YOU... are... the GREATEST!! (hiccup)"


This scenario goes hand in hand with unwelcome bear hugs, handshake after handshake and repeated speech. And this is before the concert even begins! Want to get shitfaced? Fine. How about doing it on your own time overnight, after the show? Try this instead: go slow during the day with just a few drinks, pace yourself, enjoy hanging out and listen to the music with semi-clear coherency. You'll not only enjoy the music more - you may even remember the experience the next day!

10. We love you and respect you (don't forget that); respecting these boundaries makes things better for all.

It is perhaps a great irony that rock'n'roll represents a form of sonic anarchy - diametrically opposed to concepts such as rules, courtesy and etiquette. Yet certain social boundaries must exist and be respected in order for the music and scene to thrive and not fall victim to dysfunction. Intense tones, riffs, note patterns, lyrics, screams and other components of the music itself represent a few of the places where rules are meant to be thrown out. It's best to leave the unruliness there, as a healthy outlet expressed through real guitar, air guitar or otherwise. This creative chaos we make is to be enjoyed, but not meant to apply to every other aspect of your life - your social interactions, your drinking etc. This includes your interactions with those of us who make the music. Music enriches all of our lives; we can all benefit by making the atmosphere surrounding it a little better.


122 comments:

  1. I love this!! I couldn't stop laughing as I read it because I have seen these people...and I am so happy to say I am not one of them. ;)

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  2. I completely agree with #6. I've seen it time and time again and it can be quite disturbing.

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  3. You left out a big one... put the cell phone away and ENJOY THE FREAKIN' SHOW.

    I think we are 2-3 yrs away from acts on stage treating these loons like lepers. I mean stopping the show and not continuing until MOST folks are in the here and now, not focused on creative a horrible audio/video trophy of their presence at a concert.

    Here's a general rule: If you look around and NO ONE ELSE has a cell phone out, above their heads like some sort of techno-supplicant, then and only then are you allowed to get yours out.

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    1. Hey, that's a good idea. When I start doing more shows, I'm gonna try that. Be like, in the beginning of the show, "You came here to watch a show. please put your cell phones away." If I see more than 5-10% of the audience with a phone or something in their hands, just, like, stop playing.
      Maybe they'll eventually get the point.

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    2. If I video at a concert, I will video them coming on stage and the first song, then put away and enjoy the show. Or like when I saw the Crue I just took pics now and then except for Tommy's Crucifly drum solo. You can get spy camaras cheap now that record HD. If you wanna video a concert use those. You can video and enjoy the show better.

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  4. I agree with Jeff^^^ Put that dang cell phone away during the concert people! I've even seen people jamming iPads up trying to snap pictures.

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  5. Hi Alex,
    I have had the pleasure of both speaking with you and having my picture taken with your trio.I am hoping I didn't fall into any of the above categories :)
    If I may I would like to add one more to your list. People that talk during an entire concert. Never understood why people would pay money to see someone in concert and talk the entire time!! Boggles the mind.
    Love the blog
    MJ

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    1. Especially an acoustic show! Recently had this annoying behavior piss me off at yet another show at a club!

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  6. I m laughing here, so much ! And i dont know what's more funny : the pen or album collection, hahahaha... Curious: someone already ask for you or other member autograph the ass? Is because i already saw this here.

    I remind me that one time, an artist has problems at an hotel restaurant. He was with his wife, lunching, and one fan ask him about make a pics... obvious that not was good, but, if were I, also dont could like, imagine the scene: you hungry, open your mouth to eat a piece of beef, a delicious beef, and when you are putting at the mouth to feel the flavor ; Hey, do a pic? I bite... the fan ! hahahaha...

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  7. Jennifer: thanks for the comment. Since you can see the humor, you're definitely not one of them!

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  8. Xman: If there were a similar list about blog posting, one item might be "Don't approve final edits and post your blog while in a huge hurry running out to a gig."

    (For those just tuning in, the initial post of this had #6 missing. Whoops).

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  9. Jeff A - True, but I intentionally left out ones that should be obvious ie incessant cell phone use, maintaining good personal hygiene etc.

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  10. Kevin - you'll enjoy this too (RS list of annoying concert behaviors): http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-10-most-annoying-concert-behaviors-20130114

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    1. The only time I support the death penalty is for people who yell "Freebird" at concerts.

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    2. I learned recently that yelling "Freebird" at a concert is even annoying when it's Lynyrd Skynyrd on stage

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    3. As a performing musician who is yet to be bombarded by fans, the comment that hits home the most is the shitfaced drunk fan. We all have a few of those :) Finding the right balance of courtesy and engagement is difficult when people are totally trashed!

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    4. PLAAAAY SOUTH OF HEAVEEEEEEEENN! Oh wait, um, PLAAAAAAY DISCIPLES OF THE WAAAATCH. Ahem, sorry :P

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  11. Thanks MJ Not to worry. And yes, the talking thing is maddening, especially at quieter concerts where you have to overhear every word. At a recent Al Di Meola concert in New York (acoustic guitar and piano only) we had to keep shushing some jerk a few seats away who wouldn't shut up.

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  12. MR: Funny scenarios, both counts. Although we do get asked to sign arms, legs (and ok, occasionally breasts), an ass has yet to rear itself (pun intended). In all likelihood, it would be promptly refused - unless, to be honest, it belonged to someone like the girl in the hit Robin Thicke video (Emily Ratajkowski).

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  13. Exelent! This has to be like "the bible" of "how to be a good fan" haha. Great as always Alex! Hope to see you again in Argentina.

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    1. My pleasure, gracias! Argentina's fans - like those in Chile and other countries in the region - are so awesomely passionate & focused on the music that it more than makes up for it whenever a few get a bit overzealous.

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  14. Nice...I'm sure every musician out there is saying..."Yeah, What he just said!"

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    1. It's not just me (take note one or two ranters who've tried to say I'm being "uptight" and "disrespectful"). This is stuff we talk about. I'm just doing a favor and letting everyone else in on it. Cheers

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  15. Great article and a pleasure to read. Been a while since I have been to a concert so a good refresher course. Cheers!

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    1. Thanks. Reminders never hurt. And again, most of these aren't a huge deal, just good things to keep in mind.

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  16. Hahah i do really your ideas. Someone or somepeople must have bothered you very much.

    Well i like playin jazz but i dont have fans nor bands , as of yet, ill write a blog "10 things your friend doesnt warn you about"

    Ps: the pick thing made laugh aloud lol :)

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    1. More amused than bothered. I did just have an experience in Finland where after our set, I went into the VIP Bar (limited access) to sit and have a beer w visiting friends. These friends couldn't believe all the people who kept coming up, wouldn't leave after I'd said hello, including a hairy giant who kept wanted hugs, a girl who wanted much more than that and others, all of them embarrassingly drunk. That helped motivate this post for sure.

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    2. I'm Sorry to hear that. That kinda behaviour is just embarassing even for sidestander. Btw, Your show in Tuska was something more than amazing!

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  17. Alex - I can't imagine how many things you have had to sign over the years. My Dad played pro ice hockey and has a long last name and after awhile he started signing things with an abbreviated last name. His hands would get tired! As a guitar player that relies on your hands so much, I'm sure you cringe when a drunken fan tries to high five you or shake your hand in an aggresive way, eh? Great list, by the way!

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    1. Can't say I blame him. Coincidentally, at the same show I mentioned above, I was introduced to a pro hockey player from Finland, Janne Niinimaa, who was great to meet and had his own fans there, but is also a fan of mine (very cool).

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    2. Small world. I met Janne when he was here in Philly with the Flyers. Never knew we were both Testament fans. Most pro hockey payers are metal fans. Aggresive sport, Aggresive music. They both go hand in hand.

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  18. I agree with all of this but I agree with number 8 the most!! Can't tell you how many times that I've been in a V.I.P. or waiting out by the bus with various bands (Testament included) and watched a fan talk the ear off a band member!!! All I ever want, if lucky enough to meet a favorite band or artist, is to get in there and say, love your band and music and if I can get a picture with you!!! I get in, get the picture taken, say thank you and am outta there!!!
    News flash fans: Although most musicians that I've met are accommodating to sign stuff and take pics with you, they are NOT there to become your best friends and won't become so if you try to talk their ear off!!!
    Great article!!! Horns up!!!

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    1. That's exactly right - not only sums up the situation but proves a very important point: these guidelines, particularly #8 are for the benefit of the FANS as much as the musicians. Great comment, thanks much.

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  19. Oh god, all of these are so immensely awkward. Peolpe struggling with the camera or bringing whole deiscographies, so cringeworthy. These things need to be listed on every concert ticket ever.

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    1. A lot of it is just common sense. I guess for some, it's hard to see past all the excitement.

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  20. Hi Mr. Skolnick, great blog ! Now I'm ashamed because I ask you to sign 2 things at Francfort Musikmesse... :) Hope to see you soon in France, we love you !

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    1. Oh stop/arrêter! :) You're fine. Two things is ok, even a few more if there's time. It only gets to be a problem when there's an endless pile of stuff and others are waiting. Merci, j'aime la France!

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  21. I've been #9 before, except it was after the show...if memory serves (wish it didn't). Oh ghad was that embarrasing the day after. Totally meant every word though haha.
    The other points in this list were fun to read as well and you can tell it was written from (bittersweet?) experience! :)

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    1. Another thing to keep in mind re: #9 is that it prevents us from knowing YOU as a person! Drunken behavior is so alike, we can't tell anyone apart instead, all we see is someone whose mannerisms are exactly like all the other #9s and we don't remember the encounter (of course in so many cases, neither do they). Glad you enjoyed the read and thanks for understanding!

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  22. Shit, man, I did the drunk thing to Ross Dolan (Immolation), the guy ran away after my first (slurred) sentence. Made me laugh, though. :-D

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  23. Well that's the most un-rock & roll blog post I've ever read from a rock star! Now I've just thrown my TV out the window and driven my neighbour's Rolls Royce into his swimming pool. Phew! Balance is restored.

    Just kidding. It was an amusing (and sensible) piece.

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    1. LOL. You had me for a second... I've been waiting for the haters to come out (so far barely any, too much support for this piece to start another smear campaign. But I know they're out there lurking in silence, awaiting the next misquote, ready to pounce)... Thank you.

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    2. I wanna see someone drive a Rolls Royce into a swimming pool... As long as they don't die in the process... LOL

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  24. the whole article is humorous.#5 must be especially poignant these days. I would assume you deal with that by having certain general rules, such as only responding once to a person, and never responding to their reply? Living where you do, do you encounter issues where some people who may live near you and see you frequently try too hard or inappropriately to be your friend?

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    1. You try to treat everyone equally, respond to comments that are relevant (such as these) without sending an impression that its ok to comment all the time or that there's time for long back and forth dialogues. Living in New York, it's so crowded that even though you get recognized, you don't run into the same people constantly and most are understanding. In Brooklyn, I'll occasionally bump into one time metalheads who became hipsters - their unwritten code prevents them from showing they care, even though I can tell they do.

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  25. It's really just common curtsey and common sense, which as we all know is no very common these days. It's cool hearing it from the horses mouth so to speak, and hopefully the people who do it wil see it and recognize. Thx brother \m/

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    1. Amen. Like I said in the piece, the music itself is where rules & manners get tossed out, not real life. Even moshing/crowd surfing has its own less regulated etiquette (not being overly hostile, catching people etc)

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  26. Cool! I remember that pick flying through the air, landing IN my hair and me trying to pick it while 100 other people trying to grab it too. I lost the pick and some strands but being in the front row totally worth it! Best Quitofest ever!

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    1. Down in South America, the crowds are so wild, I'm sure its harder to catch a pick than elsewhere. I'll try to throw more next time I'm down there.

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  27. Great read Alex. Here is one I love. "Hey man it's me Jeff...remember me from Toledo? we said hello at the bar back in 98." Freaking kills me everytime.

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    1. Thanks for understanding. Yes, we would love to remember everyone from previous decades. But in our world, you just meet too many people, too often!

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    3. That does happen sometimes. And sometimes the year is earlier, from the late 80s.

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  28. Number 4... I saw Accept and their drummer pointed right at me with his stick and threw it for me and the guy in front of me put his hand up and tipped it so it flew way left of me. I was so pissed off!

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  29. Hahaha, I lived in Denmark for 18 months just recently, and totally get what you're saying there. For them it's fine as they're all pissed but yes can be a bit over bearing!

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    1. I may enjoy a good ale, scotch or wine and like to let loose occasionally with friends, but I just don't see the point of ever getting that trashed. All the more so when you're in public. Again, its totally fine if they want to do it on their own time but they need to realize how it comes across to others.

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  30. This is one of the reasons why I never go see "name" bands. too much bullshit, usually from the nutjob other fans. And the whole no snapping pics thing? well, that is kind of my thing. I hit local shows with 6 or so local acts and take 500 or so pics, not just of the bands, but of the fans and everything. Kind of like my own personal chronology of metal, and when I have seen a few "name" acts, there is always some no pic rule. I have walked out the door. drowning pool was the best, they asked that we only take pics for the first 3 songs. Classy way to do it, that worked for me. I enjoyed them until I broke my knees in the pit.

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    1. From what I've seen, the no pic thing has been relaxed quite a bit. With Testament, there are fan pics from throughout the show posted on-line. We never have a problem with it, even sharing the ones we like. The 3 song rule applies to the press in the photo pit although I don't always agree with it since some of the best moments happen later in the show.

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  31. Alex your showmanship and professionalism is top notch. I remember a show you did in Salt Lake when you lent your guitar out to the crowd for a second to give them a chance to touch your guitar and my friend had the chance to get a strum in however my arms weren't long enough... Bummer!!!

    However that did not detract from the way you communicated and showed your appreciation to the crowd. Being a fan of both jazz and Testament I have always been a fan of your work and appreciate all you do for both respective communities. Your tips are excellent. I had the chance to meet Joey Belladonna and I think both you and him are a lot alike, you both APPRECIATE the fans and associate with them on a very, very personal level (I watched as Joey B took a fan's camera while he was on stage and snapped photos of both him and the crowd and handed the camera back to the person mid concert!) How cool is that!!

    However, I am drunk and I love your work and I hope to see Testament again for the third time very soon. Testament puts on amazing shows and never ceases to amaze. Your tips are excellent and although I have probably broken three rules already, (like the being 100 percent shitfaced drunk one) with my rambling but I wanted to take the time to let you know how much I appreciate your article and that I will strive to make all encounters with the people I have grown to admire in my life short, brief, and amazing as possible. I hope to meet you in person someday and shake your hand and relay my fanaticism in a non fanatic way! Thank you for all that you do!!

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    1. Nift - Letting the crowd play is a lot fun for me and at that one point in the set ("3 Day In Darkness"), it works as sort of a free-jazz/avant garde moment (it's fun to bring outside elements such as those, in) and feels like art. I used to be only focused on the music, but I've come to appreciate and incorporate the virtues of a strong stage performance as well (as it seems Joey does - he's always been great to watch, as well as hear). Glad you enjoyed. Your comment is surprisingly clear and articulate for having a lot of drinks, no worries. Your support and kind words are not unnoticed, thank you.

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  32. Am I the only one who gets annoyed by autographs on every level?

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    1. I'm not annoyed by them but have pretty much lost interest as far as music goes. As a fan, I do like getting books signed by the author when possible, but that's about it.

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  33. Great set of rules Alex. I am like a year older than you but I remember your Savatage days, I have a vinyl record of the band. My only meet and greet has been Judas Priest and most of these rule were announced at the luncheon they had prior to the event. Only ONE item would be signed and the boys already had their sharpies out. We were walked back to the band as an individual so we had like 5 minutes to talk alone which was awesome, and their photographer took the group picutre no others allowed. Don't know when you picked up your first axe but I know I did in 1979 and haven't stopped, great to see guys like you still doing this. Hope to run into you in LA sometime, maybe NAMM next year. From another Alex

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    1. Thanks Alex. I wouldn't call them rules, more like guidelines. Glad you had a good experience w the Priest M&G; ours have generally gotten favorable reviews, but I've heard of a couple other bands that didn't. I picked up my first guitar in the same year and describe it in detail in my book. geektoguitarhero.com

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  34. Alex, I'm glad that you have a balanced view of life as a celebrity. I think of all the Kurt Cobain's out there in the world who want the money, and want people to take them seriously, but want to ignore the responsibilities engendered with their fame. They complain about it, and make the fans feel like all they want from us is our dollars, and then to fade out of existence until they want something else from us.

    I've an idea for a future blog, from you, because I've wondered about this, myself, for years: What would music be now, if the people who basically are the progenitors of modern music, like the Beatles and Elvis, Smokey Robinson, etc., if they'd had home studios with the capabilities that we have now? If you think about, the average home musician is capable of doing 100 times better than the best studios the world had to offer, until the 1980's.....

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  35. Hey Danny, thanks, I do try to have a balanced view. When I'm on stage, it's one thing - people expect a larger than life persona (as they should - I expect the same from performers as an audience member). But when just hanging with friends or just out and about, I don't need to stand out. Then, I'm more a quiet observer (which my writing captures).

    Your question is an interesting one. It's easy to hypothesize that the great artists - like the ones you mention - would have easily been able to reach their artistic and commercial heights through home recordings had they only had the computer technology that we have now. But one would also have to consider some other factors.

    One is this: the music these folks created was done in studios that had their own qualities - natural room sounds, unique consoles, reverb plates (actual, not digital), high-end microphones and so many other features operated by more experienced individuals who worked in the studios. With a few exceptions, like Prince, many musicians are challenged when putting on the recording engineer hat, and there's no telling how well our original music icons would have been able to capture their own performances, even if they'd had the technology. Being in the studios and amongst audio professionals, they were able to focus 100% on their performances.

    Another factor, a bit more philosophical: one can't have the premise that the technology would be there without it affecting the overall quality of music heard and the marketplace (flooding it because now anyone with any amount of talent has access), as it has in our day and age. Classic rock, whether its the 50s pioneers, Motown artists, British Invasion groups (or whatever) was a product of that time where, sometimes fairly, sometimes not, there was a system in place of gatekeeping. Only certain ones, usually with a lot of talent and experience, could get in. There are many of today's pop stars (not to be named) who, had they been around back then, I'm not sure they would have gotten in those gates. And its difficult to say that the iconic megastars of yesterday would have broken through had they been aspiring artists of today.

    There is some great writing that relates to this: see Chuck Klosterman's essay on time travel (from "Eating the Dinosaur") and Harvard professor Daniel Gilbert's thoughts on subjectivity and perception (from "Stumbling on Happiness").

    Again, an interesting thought. Thanks for sharing.

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  36. Well, said, Alex! I hadn't considered some of the other ramifications, such as the environment of the era, etc. I was simply wondering what they might have come up with, had they had the freedom to noodle around and experiment, like we do today. Back then, with the cost of studio time, as I understand it, they pretty much would have to have most of the material already set in stone, and run into the studio and lay down tracks in a minimal time, or the studio started bitching that they were cutting into the budget for black-tie party funds, lol!

    But you were right: when we look at the amount of dreck that comes out now, with virtually no limitations on access, perhaps it was best that people never made it to that stage, until they'd "paid their dues", so to speak....

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  37. Hey Alex, Great blog. I haven't posted for a while on your board. Just wanted to let you know that I still enjoy reading your posts, blogs, etc.

    Mike \m/

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    1. Thanks Mike. Good to have you on board/on the board (pardon the bad pun).

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  38. Alex's Rules of Order for fan admiration or quick reference guide for fan adoration. Useful points to consider given your experience in the matter.Good to share helpful tips so amusingly. Hopefully, those stricken, who need them, will read them and make an effort to adjust their behavior. Utmost respect should be given to those we hold in high regard. Unfortunately, many are clueless and may not know any better and for whatever the reason, choose to act in ways unbecoming to them and irritating to you, perhaps overwhelmed by the encounter, the focus while on you is also selfishly on them, who cast aside consideration for you and others sharing in the experience. I second these rules (or restraining) orders of more appropriate etiquette.

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    1. Thank you Kimber. Yes the whole idea is sharing ideas through amusement. The fact that so many are responding means that at the very least, it has gotten interest. Sure there have been a few clueless, irate responses out there (not on this board, not yet at least) but from the looks of it, those people really don't have much of a sense of humor; I'm guessing they don't get out much.

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  39. It's a shame that these points have to be highlighted. As a human being it should be obvious. Your fanatic obsession can never be more important than the person you "worship".

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    1. Again, most people we meet are wonderful and this is meant to be informative while also being humorous. #'s 1 and 2 are just helpful pointers (and all are numbered simply for the order in which they were written). The most awkward moments, mentioned later often involve excessive alcohol consumption. Maybe these things should be obvious, but many seemingly obvious things are not learned for various reasons.

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  40. Good read, good guide, thanks, i´d like to think i'm one of the good ones

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  41. I'm sure you are and no grudges are held for anyone who isn't. Thanks for reading!

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  42. I enjoy getting an autograph for myself. This doesn't apply to Testament but many artist have disappointed me with signing a squiggle unreadable signature? I have seen people show up with more stuff than they can comfortable carry. I call them the ebayers.

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    1. lol @ ebayers... that's exactly right, too. I remember watching a video on youtube of Ronnie James Dio where he was making some... un-nice... remarks about Vivian Campbell. What I took away from that video was two things: RJD could carry a grudge for eternity, and I couldn't for the LIFE OF ME, understand why he wasn't mad at the fan that he was talking to about VC, because the guy had him signing at least 30 items. I could see if I was bringing my guitar or a copy of an artist's record, but this guy had brought multiple copies of each item, and had RJD signing them. Obviously, the guy was there to profit off of RJD, and (had it been me) I'd have told him to eff off. There's a difference between getting a souvenir you will treasure of your idol, and trying to make a buck off someone's memorabilia that you have no emotional investment in....

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  44. I already made one comment on TW, so here I will just add a samll thing. I swear, I'd just say hello to you guys if I'd have a chance to meet you. It would be such a honor to meet my idols! i've ben to at least 10 of your gigs, but never saw you anywhere before or after the shows. (I never get the pass for VIP areas ;D)
    Mitja - Slovenia - Europe

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  45. Hi, I am very much looking forward to seeing you with Testament in Australia next year. I have noticed that knowing when to signal for a pick or in my case a drink is kind of an art. Go to early and you come off as desperate, go too late and its already been thrown.

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  46. Oh my, what a terrible snobbery, Alex. Who do you think you are, bro? Some kind of prima donna/primo uomo? No, brother, you're nothing more than a (good) guitar player in a long-haired band from SFBA. Sure, I'll always give you a credit for the fantastic solos in The Legacy and your Jewish sense of humor (have you ever read "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov?), but c'mon, Alex... Is it so difficult for you to open the marker or to push camera buttons? I believe - no. And the main thing - I'm not your fan (in your interpretation of this word).

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    1. The majority of readers get the humor here in the piece. You obviously don't, and that's ok. We don't have to agree on everything and may even find some common interests. For example, I wasn't familiar with "The Twelve Chairs," but I see Mel Brooks made it into a film and I appreciate the recommendation. But here's the difference: I'd never resort to personal insulting you because I didn't agree with something you wrote.

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    2. I got the humor, bro. But it looks like a snobbery anyway. Whatever, bro, it's just my opinion. I didn't try to insult you, really. One more time - it's just an opinion. As about "The Twelve Chairs" - just read it, bro. You will never be disappointed. My best regards.

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    3. I got the humor, bro. But it looks like a snobbery anyway. Whatever, bro, it's just my opinion. I didn't try to insult you, really. One more time - it's just an opinion. As about "The Twelve Chairs" - just read it, bro. You will never be disappointed. My best regards.

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    4. I got the humor, bro. But it looks like a snobbery anyway. Whatever, bro, it's just my opinion. I didn't try to insult you, really. One more time - it's just an opinion. As about "The Twelve Chairs" - just read it, bro. You will never be disappointed. My best regards.

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    5. I got the humor, bro. But it looks like a snobbery anyway. Whatever, bro, it's just my opinion. I didn't try to insult you, really. One more time - it's just an opinion. As about "The Twelve Chairs" - just read it, bro. You will never be disappointed. My best regards.

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    6. First of all, sorry, bro, I didn't try to insult you. That's just my personal opinion (in principle). Secondly, I got the humor. You don't have to be a rocket engineer to understand it.:) As about "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov - highly recommend to read it, Alex. You will not be disappointed, please believe. My best regards, bro.

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    7. First of all, sorry, bro, I didn't try to insult you. That's just my personal opinion (in principle). Secondly, I got the humor. You don't have to be a rocket engineer to understand it.:) As about "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov - highly recommend to read it, Alex. You will not be disappointed, please believe. My best regards, bro.

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  47. hello Alex,
    i stumbled on your article by chance and i must say it's pretty interesting to see things through your perspective, as a musician
    i agree with everything, obviously, it's common sense basically. people should behave in a civilized manner in all situations. musicians are of course human, they have good days, bad days, like everyone else and people should respect that.

    however, i'd like to see an article or a comment regarding the way musicians as well should behave in respect with fans and audience basically, because 90% of the people present at a concert don't stay in line after the gig to get signed cd's or pictures or that sort of activities. i work as booker and promoter and i've seen many musicians with really shitty attitude the moment they arrived at the venue, always demanding stuff (including things that were not agreed on the contract and sometimes even illegal ;) ), sometimes not even saying hello to the staff or the people paying actually them to perform there. i've seen musicians getting pissed drunk, sometimes more often than fans, being disrespectful to everyone around who were doing their job, sometimes even destroying things or hotel rooms... i'd like to see an article like that as well, just to keep things balanced. ;)

    not a Testament fan, but i admire your work as a musician and i wish you the best of luck with everything you do!

    with respect,
    dan achim

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    1. I appreciate the constructive reply, Dan, and couldn't agree with you more. There is absolutely etiquette that musicians should follow as well. I never got the memo that said being a musician meant one was entitled to behave like a complete douche, and over the years, haven't related to many guys in bands (with some exceptions of course). I've seen all the behavior and it would make a good article at some point. In the meantime, I do talk about extensively in my book: http://geektoguitarhero.com/ Thanks

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  48. Hit it on so many points. I had the opportunity to be guest for a few days on a couple of tours for 3 metal bands and witnessed everything you described. One set of fans waited outside the bus for 6 hrs as we watched through the windows, and they actually prevented the guys from coming out due to their well known demands. A milk crate filled with albums, and a picture within a picture stunt they insist on for each tour over the last 25+ years, which has them and the most famous band member and frontman posing together holding this picture.
    Another guy follows the tours in the midwest with custom action figures hes altered based off the MacFarlane KISS set, in which hes turned them into the members of that band, and then tries to wrestle 400.00 out of them for it.

    I learned fist hand how difficult the line can be between genuinely interacting with and showing appreciation for your fans, and being outright hasseled with zero regard for respect of personal space as some fans would follow along as we simply tried to go eat somewhere within walking distance, or even by car if we jumped in mine to try and get out for lunch or sight seeing/shopping.

    Many fans still hold on to the stereotype that every second off stage is a party. Wild and reckless where anything goes, and nothing could be further from the truth. My advice from the postion of very close personal friend, and in turn, observer, walking the line between the artist and the fans waiting outside the bus is please, remember that they are human just like you. They are not a hybrid of human designed to be overwhelmed with whatever is going through your mind because you've been waiting outside the bus/venue for hours, and have hours worth of impatience and energy now ready to pop when you finally wind up in their presence. Also, as per the above mention of the overpriced custom action figures, they are not in many cases, wildly rich and able to just throw cash at you because you spent a few days on an art project.

    Jesus Alex, as I type this I find it amazing you were able to nail it to just 10 items. :) Also, sorry for the text wall. I know its a no-no as per your list, but thank you for allowing me to share those memories.

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    1. Thanks for the reply. With all the comments coming in, not all positive, it's good to know someone gets it. And as in the previous comments, I'm not letting musicians off the hook either - there are many who've engaged in inexcusable behavior. But these are things that needed to be said, as I'm hearing from many bands who relate, including some female musicians who are especially thankful (I can only imagine some of the slobbering, lecherousness they have to deal with).

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  49. This post was so pretentious and I think we all know that you are not "famous" enough to deal with these things all the time...meeting fans is optional. stay backstage if you can't handle it sir, don't "make" rules and get your feet on the ground :)

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    1. Who said anything about dealing with these things all the time? And did I even describe myself as "famous?" No, I did not. You are doing what is known in psychology as "projection." Care to see pretentiousness? Maybe you should take a look in the mirror. :)

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  50. You've become old, I bet that you thought different when you and the band went out on the "The Legacy" tour with Anthrax. I've been to every single concert Testament has played in Mexico, and I have not been lucky enough to be that close to the band members, but if I was, more than 3 items in your list would have happened. C'mon! you're not a classical musician or an opera singer, you play metal. The title says it all: "10 Things Your Favorite Musician Won't Tell You", you are not my favorite anymore. :(

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    1. You are not getting the humor and friendly nature of this writing as the majority of others are. You shouldn't take it so seriously. Hopefully you will get closer, and if so, there would be no problem signing your items.

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    2. :) you're my fav again... *thumb up*

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    3. You're my fava again *thumb up*

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  51. i agree with a lot said, but Seriously #2 ? You talk about having self-depricating humour and yet are worried that fans chuckle when you can't open a pen? That fan is probably so nervous about a once in a lifetime meeting with his favorite artist that they cant even open it themselves.

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    1. No, not seriously! It's about a pen - it's supposed to be funny (at least some get it). Jeez, some of you need to take humor lessons.

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  52. While I don't agree with everything you say, I think your motivation for saying it lies not in that you are a "pretentious rockstar" but is seeded mostly by the fact that you a regular, down to earth guy who happens to make your living as a touring musician in a somewhat famous band. As such, you are subject to being annoyed by the same self centered behavior that effects people in all walks of life. It's the same feeling I get walking around Manhattan thinking that if everyone just walked to the right and took their head up fro their mobile devices, everything and everyone would operate much more smoothly.. I can see both sides. people need to be less self centered and more prepared, but at the same time if we all just have more patience and understanding, life will be much better

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    1. Thank you. My motivation here was simply that I'm a writer as well as a musician and I thought it would make an interesting piece.

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  53. Hi Alex, I'm Cristián from Santiago, Chile
    This is awesome, and as you said it's a guide for fans to improve the artist/fan experience, it helps to us to understand more of many of you, you¿re just regular people with a job more public, when I go to see the bands, first, I want to make them feel welcomed to my country, with a smile, a handshake and being polite I think it's nailed it, (tell me if I'm wrong)

    I met you twice (2011 - 2013) and I have a lot of respect from you as a person, I told you this year that your gesture with Fernanda, my friend who died two years ago (gas leak while she was taking a shower) make her family so happy, they will always remember that, forever, I talked with her parents, they are so greateful, I am too, and yes we are passionate about the music down here, but specially passionate about the quality of the person behind the instrument, for us, that's the main thing.

    Take care, hope to see you soon and maybe chat more.
    Cristián :D

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    1. Thanks Cristian. Most seem to realize, as you do, that it's about better understanding (other than a few ranters). Your absolutely right.

      I do remember meeting and the story you told.

      Best to you and Fernanda's family

      Alex

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  54. Hi Cristian. I do remember you and Fernanda (her story, anyway). I'm always grateful to meet people on the road, and anyone who's actually met me knows that - thanks for backing me up. People shouldn't take this piece too seriously, but if they can learn something from it, that's great. Best of luck to you

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  55. I think when someone follows a musician/celebrity for many years..they automatically develop a mental relationship with that celebrity and they kinda feel that the celebrity is their best friend. The thing is that "relationship" exists in the fan's head only. So the fan expects the celebrity to treat him/her like he was his/her best buddy but the celebrity does not know him/her at all so it's weird.

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  56. I got the humor, bro. But it looks like a snobbery anyway. Whatever, bro, it's just my opinion. I didn't try to insult you, really. One more time - it's just an opinion. As about "The Twelve Chairs" - just read it, bro. You will never be disappointed. My best regards.

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  57. First of all, sorry, bro, I didn't try to insult you. That's just my personal opinion (in principle). Secondly, I got the humor. You don't have to be a rocket engineer to understand it.:) As about "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov - highly recommend to read it, Alex. You will not be disappointed, please believe. My best regards, bro.

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  58. Fantastic! Alex, you're a delight to work with and I am always impressed at how gracious you are with your fans... yours can be especially rabid so your class is very obvious in the face of such enthusiasm. Great write up, this! Glad that Ken Jaslow gave me the heads up on it.

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  59. Hi! It is only 2018 but I just read this, I will be going to the Jazz concert Oct 2018 at the Sanctuary in McKinney TX. Looking for a pick!!!

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  60. Thanks a lot for sharing such a valubale information. By this blog, one musician should be able to know what things a best musician can do.

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